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kinder Offline
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How much is BFC worth?
Interesting debate on t'other site about how much our club is actually worth.

When you take into account the stadium (which I don't think we own), the playing squad and training ground I'd say it's not a lot.

Some people quoting £100m!
20-01-2014 16:45
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AmericanTangerine Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
There is no way that we are worth 100 million. I'd say about 35-50 million at most.
20-01-2014 16:48
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Magic147 Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Depends what you mean by "our club".

There are several legal entities and to be completely free of the Oystons you'd need to buy them all or suffer for all eternity.
20-01-2014 16:49
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Cheesyleps Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Liverpool was around £300m, the figures being quoted for the Southampton takeover are around £170m.

If you consider Southampton have say £50m worth of saleable players and their own stadium as well as a state of the art training complex and are currently a premier league club...

We are worth only what? 10-20 million? No ground, no land worth shouting about, Championship/L1 status, a few mil in player assets...

If everything was in the club's hands (ground, hotel etc) then a fair few bob more. Anyone who would buy the club from the Oystons without getting the deeds to the ground etc. would be mental.
20-01-2014 16:55
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seasider Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Difficult question for the reasons Cheesy says. Difficult to know who owns what. My initial thought was £50 million but that's just a wild guess!
20-01-2014 16:57
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tangerine77 Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
BFC owns fuck all, so is worth the combined value of the players!
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 17:05 by tangerine77.)
20-01-2014 16:59
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whitstabletangerine Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Well there is £9million due next season for the last parachute payment
The squad £2million on a good day.
The training ground, limited use so no more than £500,000
what else is there, Bloomfield road belongs to some other company, within the empire.
A championship name £......
£20million top whack.
New owner would have to probably sign a tenancy agreement for Bloomfield road at £200,000 per game for so many years, with no option to take the club to a new home. The current owners would say the fans would not hear of any move elsewhere.
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 17:02 by whitstabletangerine.)
20-01-2014 17:00
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Magic147 Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Our only options if we're to be free of the Oystons:

- They sell the lot (unlikely as they'll command a massive asking price and effectively price this option out completely)
- They sell just the football part of the business (unlikely due to the O's reputation and potential investors would be unwilling to do business with them)*
- We fuck them off completely and go down the FC United route

*Only way this might work would be if someone was willing to build a new ground etc. and relocate the club.

Edit - agree the O's would probably demand an agreement to not relocate the club.
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 17:01 by Magic147.)
20-01-2014 17:00
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GynnSquarePhoenix Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
You would buy the name and then rent everything else from Zabaxe.
20-01-2014 17:01
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Magic147 Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
... and there's our problem.

Who would want to do business with the parasites for a sustained period of time?

The net result of all this of course is that they win. That's it, check mate as they say.

Unless we can organise some form of meaningful, effective protest and force either a change in policies, or a change in ownership entirely, we're screwed.

Then again, even if protests are successful and the O's look to sell, we're back to the problems above.
20-01-2014 17:05
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kinder Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Buy squad, rent stadium whilst a new ground is being built. Bloomfield Road's history is the only downside to relocating.

The positive would be getting rid of the parasites.

IMO I think the Oyston's would only sell the football side if the stadium was sold too therefore the price would be massive!
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 17:10 by kinder.)
20-01-2014 17:09
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whitstabletangerine Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Don't see that, the stadium/hotel is the pension plan if they sell the club and make the new owners rent the stadium at £200,000 per game they have a minimum income per annum of £4.5 MILLION not a bad return for some seats and patch of grass and a few staff.
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 17:19 by whitstabletangerine.)
20-01-2014 17:18
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tangerine77 Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
Nobody in the right mind will pay that, cheaper to relocate and rebuild.
20-01-2014 18:06
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Cheesyleps Offline
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
(20-01-2014 18:06)tangerine77 Wrote:  Nobody in the right mind will pay that, cheaper to relocate and rebuild.

By all accounts the club already does. Is it any wonder our playing budget is so small when forking out around £5m a year in ground rent. 12,000 season tickets at £200 is only £2.4m. Add on other sundry costs like policing, stewards etc and you are looking at a healthy loss each year just to play our home games.

That could be offset by concessions sales... Sorry, oyston-owned separate company. No money goes to BFC Ltd.

The whole setup is a farce designed to milk as much as possible from the asset.
(This post was last modified: 20-01-2014 18:21 by Cheesyleps.)
20-01-2014 18:21
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RE: How much is BFC worth?
(20-01-2014 18:21)Cheesyleps Wrote:  By all accounts the club already does. Is it any wonder our playing budget is so small when forking out around £5m a year in ground rent. 12,000 season tickets at £200 is only £2.4m. Add on other sundry costs like policing, stewards etc and you are looking at a healthy loss each year just to play our home games.

That could be offset by concessions sales... Sorry, oyston-owned separate company. No money goes to BFC Ltd.

The whole setup is a farce designed to milk as much as possible from the asset.

This. Absolutely bob on Cheesey. It is a disgrace. I am considering my options on whether to vote with my feet or stick with it. I am sick of the parasites. Would take Ince going for now.
20-01-2014 18:30
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