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Tangerine Knights court report
Today was certainly an interesting one in Manchester with around thirty Blackpool fans making their way to Manchester Civil Justice Centre
Both Owen and Karl Oyston were in court, accompanied, of course, by about five bodyguards who stayed just outside of Court 46 on the tenth floor. Difficult to fully explain what went on because it was so surreal. Whilst also being both fascinating and depressing to watch as the Oystons sat there, and close behind them people who had travelled over to Manchester to watch it all play out in court 46, some with Oyston Out scarves including one in a bright tangerine top with Oyston Out - sat just behind Karl and Owen. Owen,who had to remove his trademark fedora in the courtroom, appeared to want in all honesty to build bridges, and at least tried to chat with some fans during the breaks there whilst Karl appeared to be more interested in some shall we say "less friendly" exchanges inside and outside the courtroom. One couple who attended went up to wish Raggy well, saying that they do not know him nor does he know them, but they felt that they had to attend, to be there for him, for one of their own, for a fellow fan.
David "Raggy" Ragazzino represented himself, accompanied by his McKenzie friend, Steve "Afroman" Reed whilst barrister Eric Shannon from St John's Buildings Barristers Chambers together with lawyer Mark Lewis one of the partners in Seddons Law firm, London represented Owen Oyston, Karl Oyston and BFC Ltd.
It would be impossible to give a full report but it certainly was a game of two halves. The morning session saw both Karl and Owen Oyston take to the stand and both were questioned by Raggy. There was also discussion of STD's with claims surrounding four players and whether comments made online about Owen Oyston regarding the topic had adversely affected the club and the players. Other topics included fly tipping and textgate and Karl being questioned about his character.
The most surreal moment coming when Raggy was asked to sit close to Owen to question him as he had a heavy cold and was struggling to hear what was being said in the court. The judge did at one point state that each person should make sure they were talking loud enough, not only so that Owen could hear but also those sat watching, all of whom were from Blackpool as they also had the right to hear fully what was going on... The sight of Raggy and Owen sat close whilst discussing the football club was certainly different, with Owen repeating his now usual mantra about how he saved the club, although he was reminded by Raggy about what he said in 2010 that without Valeri Belokon there would have been no new South stand nor possibly promotion to the Premier League.
Mr Shannon tried to claim that the club had suffered financially by Raggys actions - mainly from the posts about Owen Oyston, four players and STD's, and how these four players form had suffered and that they had ended up leaving the club. It remains to be seen whether the judge agreed with this, although he did appear to be of a different opinion stating more than once that no proof had been given.
Part of the afternoon session, by which time a BBC News reporter had finally arrived, consisted of Mr Shannon detailing numerous similar cases in which damages were awarded. This appeared to go on for much of the afternoon, with many in the courtroom looking less than impressed and one or two, including Karl Oyston, who spent much of his time sucking his club pen, even looking sleepy as did one or two of those Blackpool fans sat behind him.
Shannon also made mention of numerous emails apparently sent from an email account in Raggys name including one that had made very detailed and very explicit sexual references and claims. Raggy gave his submission, before the Judge announced that he would be informing both the claimant and defendant of his decision over whether to award damages, and if so how much, by email and letter.
The judge was very fair and patient, even with those sat watching on the two or three times when people responded with incredulity. hilarity and disbelief and some reacted by commenting about some of the claims being made by the Oystons and their barrister.
There was more, much more. So much it is difficult to remember it all, never mind get it all listed here. Outside the court, BBC North West Tonight filmed the fans as they departed and then waited to see if they could get any sort of response from the Oyston camp who will have left later on together with their bodyguards.
** We realise that this is by no means a full account. If anyone who was there today would like to add more please do so."



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22-10-2015 20:15
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whitstabletangerine Offline
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Thanks Lee, fingers crossed everything turns out ok for Raggy.
22-10-2015 21:15
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Many thanks for the report, enjoyed that. Will enjoy even more if Raggy wins it.
22-10-2015 21:29
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Good report. Sounds like Raggy did well considering he had no legal help. It also sounds like Owen was there under duress and won't want to repeat this too often.

I'm not sure how you link the form of players and their future actions to words in an email and how you determine a financial loss based on that speculation? Surely the players would have to called to give statements about why they left or why they thought they played shit.

Fucking nonsense. Come on judge..do the right thing.
22-10-2015 21:39
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(22-10-2015 21:39)GynnSquarePhoenix Wrote:  Good report. Sounds like Raggy did well considering he had no legal help. It also sounds like Owen was there under duress and won't want to repeat this too often.

I'm not sure how you link the form of players and their future actions to words in an email and how you determine a financial loss based on that speculation? Surely the players would have to called to give statements about why they left or why they thought they played shit.

Fucking nonsense. Come on judge..do the right thing.

basically FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, that was what the Judge stated at one point asking Shannon where there was direct evidence to show this and no other reason was why they left or did not sign etc.

(I may have misunderstood, but that's how it came across)
22-10-2015 22:04
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