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Magic147 Offline
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RE: Brexit going well...
We actually trade with non-EU countries currently via centrally agreed EU trade deals with those countries.

Trading easily outside the EU is yet another reason to remain in the EU.

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27-07-2017 07:50
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RE: Brexit going well...
I've been waiting for 45 years to exit the EU that I voted not to join in the first place so no changing my mind.
27-07-2017 07:59
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RE: Brexit going well...
(27-07-2017 06:37)McPoolmob Wrote:  I think what Nobber is trying to get at is that the Yanks would rather pay a bit extra and buy a Range Rover from us instead of aTatamobile from China.
I know Tata is from India but you get the gist.

If that were true, they would be doing it now.
27-07-2017 08:48
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(27-07-2017 07:59)McPoolmob Wrote:  I've been waiting for 45 years to exit the EU that I voted not to join in the first place so no changing my mind.

This is called "cutting your nose off, to spite your face".
27-07-2017 08:49
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RE: Brexit going well...
(27-07-2017 08:49)TheSteed Wrote:  This is called "cutting your nose off, to spite your face".

No they did that, I want it back.
27-07-2017 11:48
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Magic147 Offline
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RE: Brexit going well...
What do we want?

We want our noses back.

When do we want it?

Hang on, give us a few years to destroy our economy and create a self-made recession causing untold financial hardship to millions of people.
27-07-2017 11:49
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RE: Brexit going well...
"Hang on, give us a few years to destroy our economy and create a self-made recession causing untold financial hardship to millions of people"

Haven't we been in boom/bust, recession and austerity for decades or have I mist something?
27-07-2017 12:55
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Magic147 Offline
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(27-07-2017 12:55)McPoolmob Wrote:  "Hang on, give us a few years to destroy our economy and create a self-made recession causing untold financial hardship to millions of people"

Haven't we been in boom/bust, recession and austerity for decades or have I mist something?

Due to circumstances that were not foreseen during those times.

To inflict such a situation on oneself is just stupidity.
27-07-2017 12:56
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RE: Brexit going well...
I just can't be European, I know that geographically we live there but culturally we are miles apart. Except for the channel tunnel I've never felt connected.
They were always Johnny foreigner, the ones we had wars with every time they got above their station.

One thing I do like from them is Pizza.
(This post was last modified: 27-07-2017 13:33 by McPoolmob.)
27-07-2017 13:21
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RE: Brexit going well...
Nobody is asking you to wear a cravat and eat baguettes, or taunt bulls and then kill them for fun.

I don't consider myself European, but I do hope we remain in the EU, for the simple reason that my earnings are directly linked to the success or otherwise of our economy, and if we leave the EU it will have untold consequences for our economy.
27-07-2017 13:55
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RE: Brexit going well...
I think that long term our economy will be fine, rocky for a while yes.
Not sure why the government tries to fight a loosing battle with offshore tax heaven's, we would make a great one and bringing in more financial institutions instead of loosing some.
27-07-2017 14:06
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RE: Brexit going well...
(27-07-2017 13:21)McPoolmob Wrote:  I just can't be European, I know that geographically we live there but culturally we are miles apart. Except for the channel tunnel I've never felt connected.
They were always Johnny foreigner, the ones we had wars with every time they got above their station.

One thing I do like from them is Pizza.

Britain is an entirely European culture.

1200 years of pre-reformation Christendom didn't disappear with Henry and the book of common prayer. Our language, our religion, our music, our art. Firmly European.

Biologically we have a common heritage with all of northern Europe.
27-07-2017 16:00
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RE: Brexit going well...
This essay about fishing rights illustrates some of the complexity but in the end makes it clear that Brexit is going to be bad for even in areas many thought it would be beneficial.

Scottish fishing fleet
27-07-2017 17:24
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RE: Brexit going well...
(27-07-2017 17:24)GynnSquarePhoenix Wrote:  This essay about fishing rights illustrates some of the complexity but in the end makes it clear that Brexit is going to be bad for even in areas many thought it would be beneficial.

Scottish fishing fleet

Bummer eh.
27-07-2017 19:54
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RE: Brexit going well...
Do those who are still remoaners or remainiacs or whatever think that South Africa should still be under apartheid, or India under British colonial rule?

Both of those are situations where the people have decided to ditch the old order and start again in a nation based on freedom and national self determination.

Objectively and rationally there are many arguments that can be made to show that the people of those countries are actually worse off socially and economically than they were before.

Basically what I'm saying is that it is supposed to be a fundamental principle of nationhood that people make decisions regarding their own sovereignty. That doesn't mean that economic prosperity is a given.

Personally, I think long term this will be good for us. Britain hasn't had abproper sense of its own identity or purpose since the post WW2 break up of the empire. We have spent 70 years clinging to our rapidly diminishing cultural and economic clout. It's time we found our own way.
27-07-2017 20:52
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