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Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
From memory, he certainly knew how to rub people up the wrong way, speaking metaphorically of course.
10-01-2018 15:05
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
Think it is SandgrownDeux according to rumour.

Don't remember banning him though, obviously someone insignificant.
10-01-2018 15:45
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
Maybe it was foggy as I remember a lot of the conversations went over my head Biggrin

I just remember him starting a lot of threads discussing the same topic. He was/is obviously very passionate.
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10-01-2018 15:49
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
(10-01-2018 15:49)seasider Wrote:  Maybe it was foggy as I remember a lot of the conversations went over my head Biggrin

I just remember him starting a lot of threads discussing the same topic. He was/is obviously very passionate.

He doesn't appear to be banned, so no idea what happened.
10-01-2018 16:23
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
SandgrownDeux - thought he was okay to be honest.
10-01-2018 16:29
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
Think I found what you were on about seasider, made himself look a bit of a tit in this thread:

http://www.backhenrystreet.co.uk/thread-9283.html

He even implied I was pro-Oyston and in league with mods on AVFTT!

He was never banned though, think he just sloped off in a sulk.
10-01-2018 16:43
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
30,000 isn't unachievable, he has said he wants to take the club forward and the town.

Blackpool FC as the world's favourite second team, the rocky Balboa of football, the place to entertain crowds of visitors to the town who are on business, casinos, seeing shows.

Blackpool is undergoing redevelopment, and planning for the future, the over reaching at first thought was Vegas of Britain seemed far fetched at first to some but with the right development and project planning this could still happen in some shape way or form.

Minus the oystons involvement.

Visit Blackpool for a missing weekend and come and visit Blackpool football club.

It's not as far fetched as it sounds, let's jump through Cern and explore a different universe wherein Blackpool FC survived in the championship and the money from the premier league was reinvested appropriately into the facilities and the squad.....

On average fan attendance among local clubs has risen across the UK, even those teams in the lower divisions are seeing larger crowds. Footballers in the premier league youth teams getting tired of waiting for their chance and taking control of their future improving lower league standard, Ledson for one at Oxford.
Oxford have just signed close to signing a Liverpool player for 200,000 an outstanding midfielder Cameron brannigan.

What would Blackpool FC be drawing in attendance realistically now... Either in the lower end of the prem, mid table in the prem or top half of the championship?

20,000?

Looking at local rivals who have been in or around the championship at premier league we are seeing 16,000 + average attendance ... Some far cry from the 30,000 however there are two noteworthy things to point out

The investor talks of the long term plan at
Blackpool, who knows actually building that fourth stand with safe standing might help

The town revisiting it's last Vegas esque model whilst maintaining its family friendly face.

A cult following takes time to grow, stories of success need the seeds to grow, when you look at Blackpool FC and all that happened might some one also take a look at Blackpool councils planning for the future at the same time? Did the town continue to fight for its vision of the future?
This would have attracted investors, visitors and a re invigoration of the town.

Are there any schools in Blackpool, private, academies, public that specialise in sport mainly football? Schools that could feed into a Blackpool youth team?
A school that could draw from all around the country ... The best of the best? All's it takes is to build one.
There are so many soccer academies out here, from the very tender age of 3-5 right through to schools offering it as a big part of its curriculum. NFL is on its way down and soccer is growing, so is the standard and along with that the MLS is growing with expansion teams.

So thinking about that 30,000 it's more than achievable.

Consolidate and rebuild, get the fans back through the door and get behind the town and any plans for the future. There is an airport there... One that can be expanded to take larger aircraft and a really good infrastructure to build upon.

Once the cloud is lifted... Then stock can be taken in where the club is at
10-01-2018 18:24
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
30,000 isn't achievable

We didn't average that in the 50's

That's not to say Blackpool isn't unique It does have the capacity to attract larger than average away crowds and if that was embraced as Wigan and Blackburn did when in the Premiership and Brighton do now then in the right league 20,000 is a possibility and for big games you may get more

Question is do you want games with more away fans than home fans ?
10-01-2018 18:33
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
(10-01-2018 18:33)TwelveAngryMen Wrote:  Question is do you want games with more away fans than home fans ?

The Scabs seem to have got used to it Wink
10-01-2018 18:43
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Haha Very true
10-01-2018 20:52
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RE: Fan launches bid to buy Blackpool FC
(10-01-2018 18:33)TwelveAngryMen Wrote:  30,000 isn't achievable

We didn't average that in the 50's

That's not to say Blackpool isn't unique It does have the capacity to attract larger than average away crowds and if that was embraced as Wigan and Blackburn did when in the Premiership and Brighton do now then in the right league 20,000 is a possibility and for big games you may get more

Question is do you want games with more away fans than home fans ?

No 30,000 would be ridiculous. For 95% of the time it would be like Coventry with no atmosphere. It's fine as it is but a nice safe standing East Stand would be nice.
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10-01-2018 20:55
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OYSTON OUT AngryfireAngryfireAngryfire
10-01-2018 21:01
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18,000 is realistic - safe standing in the East for home and away would add to the atmosphere and customer choice Biggrin
11-01-2018 13:42
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Without a rich tycoon, there is no way a club with crowds of 18000 will establish themselves as a premier league soccer club in the future

The gulf is growing

The league wanting to extend the efl was the next best option maybe a premier 2 with a Commonwealth champions cup or league to offer an alternative to the European champions league.

So realistically, from some on here it sounds as though even if new owners arrive gates will hardly recover.

My vision of the future was a club that was 30-32000 stadium with a town full of top end casinos, attractions, training academy and the stadium being used for all sorts of events from boxing to WWE/ROH/NJPW events.

It's worth an estimated 85 million in extra tourism if you have no real attractions!
Aka Swansea

There has been a general rise in soccer attendances in the last 5 years even non league clubs are enjoying consistent crowds.

Maybe it's a lack of vision, maybe it's a lack of heart I'm not sure but Blackpool has always had so much more potential to be something bigger.

You would be surprised how many people attending a casino and entertainment week/weekend would take up watching a historic soccer club given the right environment.

What doesn't help and this is not ignorance this is pure opinion, is the fact that when the stadium was being built the design was bland, unimaginative and unattractive. If the town had gotten the licenses to become the last Vegas of the UK which it still might and could eventually with the right council members fighting for the town, Bloomfield road would have been lacklustre for want of a better word. The cheapest option was sought and followed. It was proven with the pathetic temporary stand that there was something fishy under foot, at that point alarm bells started ringing for me, speculate to accumulate. I've heard the what if there is more away fans than home fans.... Well if the stadium is full and money is coming in what's the problem? I've heard all sorts of arguments. Maybe a stand could have been relegated to neutrals. Neutrals could eventually become fans.

You have to attract people, if the town grew and exploded with excitement the supporters would have grown, a few years in and out of the premier would have seen the people of the town return to the club, the young and old. A decent youth academy and their families attend, sports facilities around the ground would have enticed people to watch the odd game eventually leading to a bigger home support

The problem with Blackpool isn't just the soƧcer club, the people are unwilling to change, how many dilapidated bed and breakfasts are there? Many owners had made a mint in the past and failed to invest in building new buildings and decent looking hotels. The people failed the town it's just hard for those living there to see this point of view.
All quick to make a buck but not really willing to reinvest that money.

Old tired looking buildings and terraces of bed and breakfasts that could have been torn down and rebuilt with speculation to build some of the world's best facilities.

That's not the oystons fault, that's just human nature, to spend whilst it's good and moan when it's bad.

Bad entrepreneurs, bad business owners, business owners more willing to use their facilities to home the homeless than invest in their properties all those years ago.

The town has had some good years, nay excellent years and yet the town has stayed the same for the most part well in the private ownership part.

Take a walk around your town, have a look at the buildings and the tourist area, it's like a throw back to the 70's and 80's. I stayed in a BnB once, next time I'll sleep on a bench!
The pubs are outdated yes some time traditional pubs need to stay but all the new ones looked the same and had terrible facilities.

Sorry if I offend, actually this time I'm not.

People who run businesses in Blackpool have a duty to invest their profits back into facilities. Live a good life and leave something behind. Not just a business that could survive but a business that could thrive.
Join together with other business owners and develop the best concert rooms in the world, the best swimming pools and health bars, the best private health facilities, the best entertainment.

Instead the town has failed itself and it's a real shame

30,000 is achievable and I'd even go as far to say 40,000 is achievable if the town dared to dream and became one of the best resorts in the world

The Dubai of the west coast, the last Vegas of Lancashire. Hotels built on the sea, with housing built on man made islands, pier investment. Hell building the world's longest biggest pier.

People are going to disagree, I know that but I only have to look at Arizona as an example of how to change things up. New cities are growing, new counties are flourishing. Blue chip and silicon valley businessess relocating because we have the best tax rates and biggest growth areas

You have to build it for people to come.

Look at where London bridge is in Arizona, a whole community has grown around it

Maricopa has new houses being built, new businesses moving in, local businesses investing in their properties to be fresh and upto date.

The last time I was there I went back in time to the tower. Some of the facilities in the tower were great, the old Circus was amazing... And what did you have as food facilities? A dirty pub with yobs and local hooligans putting off visitors, a cafe next to a play area reminiscent of the BHS cafe before BHS went under.

A trip up to the ball room was lovely but the facilities surrounding the grand attractions are a down grade, going through the museum was boring and then going up to the top of the tower could have been interactive and more.

The sandcastle is great.... It could be made amazing
The pleasure beach is too expensive, far too expensive not just to get in but for snacks. It's over priced as many attractions are,

Want to talk about the SeaWorld..... The sea world that is over with in 15-20 minutes ...

Madam tuassads.... Less said the better

The rogue traders

The tacky shops that have been on the front for years with the same owners never investing, modernising

I guess you are right.... 18000 is what you are likely to get on a good day, the reason

No one has cared enough.

If this causes a ban or retribution I don't really care, a town/city only thrives when the people care enough for it to thrive

It's not a destination hotspot, it could be.... But it needs big change from the top down.

Laws to force people to invest, people to care, community business managers who help business owners to liaise with each other and match make to create new attractions

The council have done some good work, most of it out of sea defence and obligatory work

Where is the vision of the future

The carpet bagger statement was perfect in the proposed buyers statement

That's exactly what you have got in Blackpool... People clinging to real estate hoping for the big money rather than creating the future.

People want a tangerine future

How many of them are creating it, how many believe in it, how many are fighting for it

I believe Blackpool can grow and have a big fan base, I also believe that the lacklustre investment right across Blackpool is the reason why the town hasn't grown and many can't see a stadium being 30,000 full...

Imagine if they had build a forest green rovers stadium on a bigger scale "the proposed green stadium with a casino, mitchiln star restaurant, top apartments and condos around the top of the ground

Imagine if they had built a ground with training facilities next door open to the public when not in use and a concourse around the ground... See Detroit's MLS expansion team stadium and surroundings

No vision, no ambition and small mindedness

So what the casino didn't get built,

If they had built something iconic and attractive, something that the next time then UK has a world cup or Euro cup the ground could be used as a landmark...

Maybe more planning permission and casino permission would have been granted... Maybe it would have been the spark that was needed... Instead a generic bowl .... 3/4 finished

I still believe that the town could change, the facilities could be built, the club could grow... But right now we should be damn thankful in some respects for what we have ... A league one club with a non league fan base due to the oystons...

Once the oystons have gone we have a club the size of a mid sized league one club and a lot of things have to change. Not just the club. The whole town.

I love Blackpool, I do, not for its attractions but for what it was and it's history. I love the club, and wish the potential buyer all the luck in the world, you have to have a vision to build it, something he has.
He believes in the club, the fans and the town
He could be the catalyst needed.

Preston North End are a club that could if they got established in the premier league attract 30000 and they have a lot less going for them as a town then Blackpool does. Ironically it could be Preston taking advantage of the attractions in Blackpool when they finally get there just as Blackburn did... You know the tourist who comes for the day after the match to Blackpool pleasure beach and leaves... Impressed with the rides but disappointed with the experience.

Their forums is around 23,000 now and they attract around 16,000 which is roughly 3-4000 more fans than the last time they were in the championship
Once in the premiership that ground is full and if they get established they will easily fill a 30,000 seater stadium possibly even more.

They have a richer history as a club, easily marketed to foreign visitors, they have a ground that yes needs some repair but looks unique to some degree

AFC Fylde is another club growing because they are not just thinking of the club, the whole village/town is becoming a little bit like a modern Milan, rich people, growth focused and a nice community club that offers facilities to the fashionista populace.

Fleetwood, they could eventually steal a lot of the Blackpool fans who give up, they have good facilities and Fleetwood has a plan of sorts for the future albeit with their constrictions

AFC united of Manchester, Salford, even Chorley are making strides.

Yes everyone agrees the oystons have run the club like a circus and eventually I am sure that everything will be out in the open regarding the money and what happened whilst they dance off into the sunset or face charges for fraud and deception... Who knows

If you want to fill it... You have to build it... Believe in it and be the best at what you do.

There is no reason Blackpool can't succeed.

On another note the weather in the UK is getting perfect for wine making especially up in Lancashire... Yet no one has started a vineyard or a wine making facility...

Perfect opportunity there.

Blackpool could become a world leader in wine making

English wine is lovely and commends a high price from the south.

Someone is going to make a lot of money if they start a large wine business on the west coast.

That's vision

What I'm trying to say is

Yes it's cloudy outside... But the future could be bright, it could be tangerine.
11-01-2018 19:18
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Wow. Just... Wow.

Can I have some of your mushrooms please?
11-01-2018 19:31
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