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Bally Offline
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RE: Strikes in Syria
(14-04-2018 09:20)seasider Wrote:  The pot holes are never going to be fixed.

Pot holes? Call ours pot holes? You should see the ones in Syria.
14-04-2018 09:24
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So this was published yesterday and before they got chance to dig we struck. In the interests of international cooperation I find that bizarre

‘In response to media queries, the Spokesperson for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) confirms that the #OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) team is on its way to #Syria and will start its work as of Saturday 14 April 2018.’
14-04-2018 09:32
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(14-04-2018 09:18)Bally Wrote:  Just another proxy war to topple a government the West, Israel and the Saudis don't like.
May has bypassed parliamentary discussion to go ahead with a war 4 out of 5 of citizens disagree with. That's democracy for you. The reaction to civilians being attacked with chemicals (allegedly), is to blow more of them off the face of the earth. Targeting chemical plants my arse.

Do you like Assad's government?
14-04-2018 09:43
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Well I certainly don't but accept that after seven years of war, 400,000 deaths, 1 million injured and millions displaced throughout Europe and in camps in Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan the time has come for it to end.
Assad has all but won, the opposition are virtually beaten and seeing the results of two other dictators and the mess that followed their demise in Iraq and Libya perhaps leaving Assad in place might not be welcome but as the old saying goes, better the devil you know......

The West would have done a lot better to have persuaded the opposition or what is left of them to lay down their arms, many of the cities and towns are destroyed with the exception of Damascus and there has been far too many casualties, enough is enough.

I am not a defeatist by nature but there comes a time when the writing is on the wall and I think that time has come in Syria, I also believe the time has come for a certain owner to leave a certain football club, in both cases their time is up.
14-04-2018 10:15
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Bally Offline
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(14-04-2018 09:43)foggy Wrote:  Do you like Assad's government?

No. I also dislike conflict for convenience. Assad has all but defeated his opposition. Why get involved now? Could it be that Trump and May need a distraction away from their own failings. The knives are out for Trump as more and more tales of corruption are investigated.
And May is falling further and further down in the polls.
14-04-2018 11:40
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Ah yes, bombing the Middle East when (as you said yourself) 4 out of 5 people are against it. A surefire way to boost your poll ratings.

Also, May isn't falling further and further down the polls. For the first time since the election she has a large lead over Corbyn in net favourability and has consistently held a lead in polling for who would make the best PM. Labour have narrowed the gap in overall polling, but opposition parties generally do (in fact, they generally enjoy a lead, it's low-key quite amazing that the Conservatives still hold a lead despite being in power for 8 years now). If you think May wants to bomb another country because she is worried Labour have gone up 5 point in the polls over the course of a year (and is still losing), you're siding with the Alex Jones versions of the left. I think the 'why now?' question could be more realistically answered by the fact we have proof Assad literally just used a massive chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians.
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14-04-2018 11:51
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Having said all that, May is obviously turning a blind eye to civilian deaths in Yemen and Palestine so firstly fuck her and also I'm not trying to deny there are no political games
14-04-2018 12:13
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Taken from Facey....


"Doesn't blowing up chemical weapons dumps with conventional explosives just distribute the chemicals into the atmosphere causing serious harm to the populace ?"


Now there's a thought
14-04-2018 13:26
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Apparently not if the weapons are moved first, they certainly had a few days to get rid.
14-04-2018 13:29
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If it wasn't for France and the UK being on board I would be convinced it was 100% Trump distracting from the Comey book release publicity this weekend. I know it somehow involves the interests of Russia, Iran and the Saudis.

It sounds like a complicated shit show better left well alone.

Let me know if they cross the Arizona state borders or storm the Fylde beaches.
14-04-2018 13:41
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Taken from Facey....
"There's another elephant in the room, The Syrian opposition are led by a combination of Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, IS and other Wahabist groubs who are all payrolled by Saudi Arabia (and probably supplied with arms, also) Saudi are in the alliance fighting Assad, we supply Saudi with all sorts of implements of death, in turn they are probably supplying arms to Assads opposition.

How do you break that circle, the ultimate extension of it all is that we, by proxy are supplying several Islamist groups with arms"
14-04-2018 21:33
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15-04-2018 08:51
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(15-04-2018 08:51)TheSuffolkSeasider Wrote:  .


If you believe that is just a capitalist thing then you would be wrong, I can remember seeing queues of people lining up all around the block in the hope of buying scraps of meat and basics such as a loaf of bread yet the country was spending millions of roubles on armaments during the Cold war, millions more in their quest to establish themselves in the space race with the Americans.
15-04-2018 10:37
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If ever an indication of media manipulation this is it

https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.7...357431171/

Pretty bad that isn't it. Like, we all know news is slanted but they're not ordinarily so blatant
15-04-2018 14:50
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(15-04-2018 14:50)Bally Wrote:  If ever an indication of media manipulation this is it

https://www.facebook.com/paul.j.watson.7...357431171/

Pretty bad that isn't it. Like, we all know news is slanted but they're not ordinarily so blatant

So obvious, hope others pick up on this. The satirists would have a field day.
15-04-2018 15:28
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