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(19-02-2013 16:18)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Steed if you read the rules of fansonline which strangely I already know you have, you will know full well that I was banned for bringing up svc mgmt fees.

Do the rules say you will be banned if you mention Svc Mgmt fees?
19-02-2013 16:41
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(19-02-2013 16:18)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Clappers, Karl has got through this latest debacle with bank balance unscathed and knows full well the apathy and memory of the general public. He is given a mandate by every paying fan to do what he wants and until people change that paradigm business will go on as usual.

Well I for one will be a season ticket non-renewal, and will be going to away games only. I have had enough or mandating him. The Oystons will brazen it out until the last of the parachute money is reallocated to other Oyston enterprises, and then and only then will real change be possible. Our only hope is to get someone else to take on the football team and secure reasonable terms for use of the Oyston Drome under new ownership in the short term.
19-02-2013 16:55
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(19-02-2013 16:18)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Steed if you read the rules of fansonline which strangely I already know you have, you will know full well that I was banned for bringing up svc mgmt fees. I didn't swear, wasn't racist, received no warning or explanation. Others have also been banned for the same non reasons and funny enough most of whom can put together a cognisant case of what is being done/not done at BFC that usually doesn't reflect well on the Oystons.

To ask for proof on this is disingenuous on your part as you know full well that posters on this very board have been banned on avftt.

Media can be manipulated and is every day for a variety of reasons. To think of that as a conspiracy is naive in the extreme. To repeat something often enough so that people believe it is a nazi propaganda technique and is used often on Avftt. Case in point Owen is a Blackpool fan. No he wasn't he was a businessman who brought BFC for the property that's a fact, my family knew him since he was an out of work actor asked by a pal to help out in his real estate business. My family knew full well that he's a scallywag but stuck up for him when all the rape nonsense was going on which is more than many of his so called friends were doing.

You are right, this board is a sampler of fans as is avftt. I don't care what goes on over there as if people still populate it then they get what they deserve but what goes on over there is important to recognise as it is both effective and like a disease will spread if unchecked.

Clappers, Karl has got through this latest debacle with bank balance unscathed and knows full well the apathy and memory of the general public. He is given a mandate by every paying fan to do what he wants and until people change that paradigm business will go on as usual.

Right now it's time to support the new manager and watch with interest if Karl will make a sufficient gesture of support of this manager. He didn't with the other two managers we've had this season, but lets see if Tom goes whether at the very least that money is reinvested. I fully expect him to have the gall to say he's cutting budgets as the crowds are falling. This is rich when out of the other side of his mouth he said if crowds would go up which they did then the club would progress. Have you seen this progress? I blinked so I missed it. What I see is two managers gone in a season and a proven striker saying he was told they wanted to get him off the wage bill.

Well, as with many things you purport to know, you are again, incorrect. I have no idea what the rules for AVFTT are. In fact I only signed up to that site a matter of days ago to make one post. (Coincidently aimed at some ignorant idiot that likes to spurt nonsense about Nazis). I have never read the rules of the site and most likely, never will.

Secondly, asking you to prove users have been banned from AVFTT, and indeed whether or not the Nazis used propaganda may appear disingenuous on my part, as it is well known both have occurred, however I asked you to prove that

1. You were banned because of a supposed conspiracy to oust all anti-Oyston sentiment from the board.

2. Nazi style brain washing & propaganda is being actively employed on AVFTT, rather than just the posted opinions of fans that have every right to back the chairman should they choose.

These are perfectly valid requests.
19-02-2013 17:04
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I'm sorry you're telling porkies. If you signed up for avftt, you see the rules as part of the sign up process. In fact you agree to them.

Not doing yourself any favours Steed are you?

Clappers, club was already offered to someone like that prior to promotion they declined. As with managers no one would be interested in a deal such as you describe.
19-02-2013 17:12
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SandgrownundeuxThumbsup2
winds me up how some of our fans dont seem to care what goes on when we are winning.Because of this the last couple of seasons have given the money siphoners the opportunity to lie and siphon much more than you would have thought they had the brass neck to.Steed there is no debate or discussion on things pro oyston they are lying money siphoning scum that will and have done anything possible to make money at the expense of our team and this is proven fact end of.
19-02-2013 17:16
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(19-02-2013 17:12)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  I'm sorry you're telling porkies. If you signed up for avftt, you see the rules as part of the sign up process. In fact you agree to them.

Not doing yourself any favours Steed are you?

Clappers, club was already offered to someone like that prior to promotion they declined. As with managers no one would be interested in a deal such as you describe.

Seeing, and reading are 2 very different things.

Still awaiting proof.
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19-02-2013 17:18
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Good thread...i am enjoying the debate....keep it up Thumbsup2
19-02-2013 17:18
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(19-02-2013 17:12)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Clappers, club was already offered to someone like that prior to promotion they declined. As with managers no one would be interested in a deal such as you describe.

That's why the club needs a saviour. You never know when one might suddenly appear out of nowhere. Gotta keep hoping!
19-02-2013 17:20
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There are suitors of that have no doubt. Even the fabled Portsmouth had suitors and fans to pick up the scraps that were left. The fact is though no one in his or her right mind would go in business with the Oystons. An alleged money launderer did but no one else. The person offered the club is a bit of a rascal himself and even he turned it down.

The club has to be sold as a complete entity just as it was purchased by the Oystons. You are correct that once the parachute money has gone it certainly is an opportune time to get rid.
19-02-2013 17:24
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(19-02-2013 17:18)TheSteed Wrote:  Seeing, and reading are 2 very different things.

Still awaiting proof.

Funny enough in your earlier post you wrote I have no idea what the rules for AVFTT are. In fact I only signed up to that site a matter of days ago to make one post.

Tut Tut like your alter image you chronic porkie tellers do get yourselves in a pickle don't you?

Nice one, seeing and agreeing but the words that you see you don't comprehend.

You've got your proof you look ridiculous and like the bazzer you strikingly resemble best to delete me as a poster on this board for no reason. Wouldn't bother me in the least and as avftt goes to show on the whole people go back to sleep soon enough.
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19-02-2013 17:27
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(19-02-2013 17:24)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  There are suitors of that have no doubt. Even the fabled Portsmouth had suitors and fans to pick up the scraps that were left. The fact is though no one in his or her right mind would go in business with the Oystons. An alleged money launderer did but no one else. The person offered the club is a bit of a rascal himself and even he turned it down.

The club has to be sold as a complete entity just as it was purchased by the Oystons. You are correct that once the parachute money has gone it certainly is an opportune time to get rid.
great debate lads , I agree with your last paragrath sandy.
19-02-2013 17:29
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(19-02-2013 17:27)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Funny enough in your earlier post you wrote I have no idea what the rules for AVFTT are. In fact I only signed up to that site a matter of days ago to make one post.

Tut Tut like your alter image you chronic porkie tellers do get yourselves in a pickle don't you?

Nice one, seeing and agreeing but the words that you see you don't comprehend.

You've got your proof you look ridiculous and like the bazzer you strikingly resemble best to delete me as a poster on this board for no reason. Wouldn't bother me in the least and as avftt goes to show on the whole people go back to sleep soon enough.

Complete and utter bollocks. Ticking an agreement box on a set of T&C's is completely different to reading them.

Do you own any products from apple, sandy? Such as an iphone, ipod or ipad?
19-02-2013 17:38
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(19-02-2013 17:27)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Funny enough in your earlier post you wrote I have no idea what the rules for AVFTT are. In fact I only signed up to that site a matter of days ago to make one post.

Tut Tut like your alter image you chronic porkie tellers do get yourselves in a pickle don't you?

Nice one, seeing and agreeing but the words that you see you don't comprehend.

You've got your proof you look ridiculous and like the bazzer you strikingly resemble best to delete me as a poster on this board for no reason. Wouldn't bother me in the least and as avftt goes to show on the whole people go back to sleep soon enough.

I really don't get what is so hard for you to understand, and I doubt I can make it simpler without the aid of a child.

I signed up for AVFTT, I agreed to the rules, but, as I mistakenly thought I had made clear, I did not read them. How can I comprehend something that I did not read? Can you prove I read them?

You have not provided any proof at all of your other accusations, nor has anybody else. Constantly whittering about the same thing over and over on this forum is not proof. Give me transcripts, eye witness testimonies, ANYTHING to prove your assertions or I fear it is you that is made to look the fool.

Once again you are extending the height of your soap box to make up for the fact you have no legs to stand on.
19-02-2013 17:40
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A rather apt cartoon

[Image: proof.jpg]
19-02-2013 17:42
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nothing like apple it's a short one page in your face sheet you have to go through to sign up. As the site overlord he is well aware of the rules on this site which for legal reasons have to be similar. He says he's never read them and when pulled up on it he says well seeing is not the same as reading. I expect you to show him solidarity as you both moderate but let's not fool ourselves as to steeds innocence on this or be naive as to the moderator abuse at avftt which I forgot also includes editing posts without informing the original poster or highlighting the fact for other readers.
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