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foggy Online
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He's not aware of them because he didn't read them. Isn't that obvious? They're not mutually exclusive statements.
19-02-2013 18:33
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foggy Online
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(19-02-2013 18:31)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  I'm here for the football.

It's amazing how little you talk about it then.
19-02-2013 18:34
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(19-02-2013 18:20)TheSteed Wrote:  Entirely true, and very healthy I would say. Checks and balances and all that...

Oh I agree. Merely pointing out that Sandy is making unfounded assumptions.

(19-02-2013 18:23)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Sorry I don't really have a desire to go round in circles with you Mr see but not read, not aware of rules.

See my previous post.

Quote:My proof is that I can't sign on with my username password.


Why not just sign up again? Like everyone else has.

Quote:Are you going to say with a straight face that you are not aware that people who post on your board, ragnarok for example were banned on avftt. If you can't see, oh but you couldn't as you said you only just joined avftt and have only been on it once how the board is manipulated I could say anything here and you wouldn't know if it was accurate or not would you.

Thank you for perfectly illustrating both your conduct on these boards and the difference between seeing, reading and comprehension. You saw what you wanted to see in steed's earlier post without fully comprehending it.

Steed told you he only signed up to AVFTT recently. He didn't say he had never browsed the site. Why would he feel compelled to sign up to respond to a thread if he wasn't a 'reader' of the forum. Personally, I read AVFTT for about 6 months before feeling the need to sign up. On the front page of this site there are user activity statistics. Invariably there are more guests online than users. That is normal message board activity.

Quote:Ahh the webs you weave for yourself steed. Like I said best to retire gracefully instead of making yourself look like the Bazzer across the way. Oh I forgot you are not aware of him and his ilk as you've only been on avftt once.

:-)

Again, you attempt to belittle someone once you have exhausted any reasonable line of debate that can back up your misguided stance. Just for once, it would be nice if you simply said "I was mistaken, you're right, never mind."

The fact you aren't willing to ever take such a stance tells me an awful lot about your character.

Are you sure you aren't KO?
19-02-2013 18:35
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(19-02-2013 18:31)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Suze you have no idea what I do so as an elected official. It wouldnt' be classified as community payback with the duties my position entails, and no after your last stalking me wanting to be my friend on Facebook incident I would hope you got the message I have no desire to be your friend or tell you about my life. I'm here for the football.

WTF are you on? ...... Stalking? ...... Facebook incident? ....... Friend?

Do I know you? Oops

BTW, if you're here for the football, why do you rarely talk about it?
19-02-2013 18:36
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(19-02-2013 18:18)Cheesyleps Wrote:  I didn't ask if they were like Apple, I asked if you had owned an apple product. Dodge the question as usual.

Your response tells me you are aware of Apple's T&Cs. Did you read them before clicking your acceptance?

If the answer is yes, I am pretty damn certain you are telling lies. If the answer is no, you have disproved your own point. I fully expect you to continue to ignore this point.


Which isn't what you said. You specifically said you knew he had read them.


Because it isn't the same thing at all. There are some roadworks due to start over wyre next week. There are yellow signs next to the road with fairly small writing on providing details about the proposed works. I have passed those signs and seen them twice a day for the last two works. I have yet to read them.


My 'solidarity' is because you are talking complete and utter crap. This is a prime example of exactly what you do in every single thread.

* You make a sweeping statement with no facts to back it up.
* Someone pulls you up on it.
* You argue vehemently that you are right.
* People provide counter-arguments that conclusively disprove your theory and you still refuse to acknowledge that you can be wrong.
* If the other person persists you resort to personal attacks.

This is another prime example. Because my name is green I must toe the line, back the 'party message' and defend fellow moderators to the hilt. In reality you don't know what you are talking about. Me and Steed actually don't always see eye to eye on moderation issues.

Once again you simply jump to your own conclusions and assume they must be true.

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I don't know why I bother. Cheesy post 34 states I agree most people don't read the rules but he went from not aware to seeing is not reading, to not acknowledging what has already been said in the space of three pages. He asked for proof I cited my own experience. He obviously had another of his convenient seeing but not reading moments.

If you read instead of being a knee-jerk reactionist you'd save us both some time. You're roadworks analogy just makes steed look sillier as he stated among his many conflicting Karlesque statements he was not aware of the rules. This was after his seeing but not reading quip.

Would love if you let go of steeds hand as he seems to like to speak for himself and post any comments on the op which has points relevant to both yours and my quality of life.
19-02-2013 18:36
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Why do you keep suggesting that not being aware and not reading are completely conflicting statements? He isn't aware of what the rules are, because he didn't read them.
19-02-2013 18:37
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(19-02-2013 18:36)Suze. Wrote:  WTF are you on? ...... Stalking? ...... Facebook incident? ....... Friend?

Do I know you? Oops

BTW, if you're here for the football, why do you rarely talk about it?


Yeah suze that would be me talking about the manager, ipswich game, defenders, past managers, mp and Ince. To miss one would be understandable but to miss them all seems rather careless and blinkered on your part.
19-02-2013 18:38
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If I'm not aware, I don't know of something.

If I see but don't read I am aware, I have just chosen in the main to not read the bulk of it.

Apparently Steed is all of these.
19-02-2013 18:40
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Can we get the toilet seat thread going again. This is shiteSad-smiley
19-02-2013 18:40
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foggy Online
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I'm sure he is aware that Avftt has rules, why would he lie about that really?

He just isn't aware what those rules actually are. Because he didn't read them.

Its actually that simple.
19-02-2013 18:42
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(19-02-2013 18:38)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  Yeah suze that would be me talking about the manager, ipswich game, defenders, past managers, mp and Ince. To miss one would be understandable but to miss them all seems rather careless and blinkered on your part.

I guess with the amount of shite you seem to post it's easy to miss a few football related ones!

Anyway, you haven't explained the FB/Stalking/friendship crap that you were going on about. Do we know each other or are you just posting more shite?
19-02-2013 18:45
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Foggy why do you say exactly the same thing as Suze. Weird.

Not good form to speak for someone else. If you've something to say about the op great, if not why bother?
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(19-02-2013 18:36)Sandgrownundeux Wrote:  I don't know why I bother. Cheesy post 34 states I agree most people don't read the rules but he went from not aware to seeing is not reading, to not acknowledging what has already been said in the space of three pages. He asked for proof I cited my own experience. He obviously had another of his convenient seeing but not reading moments.

If you read instead of being a knee-jerk reactionist you'd save us both some time. You're roadworks analogy just makes steed look sillier as he stated among his many conflicting Karlesque statements he was not aware of the rules. This was after his seeing but not reading quip.

Would love if you let go of steeds hand as he seems to like to speak for himself and post any comments on the op which has points relevant to both yours and my quality of life.

The fact that you quoted my post tells me you read it.

Care to comment on the Apple question? As I have outlined it is critical to this whole discussion.

It is perfectly reasonable for someone to agree to a set of rule/T&Cs in an electronic format without reading/comprehending/understanding/being aware of said rules (call it what you will they are facets of the same thing).

How does the analogy make him look silly. We see things all the time without really being aware of them. Such is the nature of the human brain. There is a name for when someone is unable to filter out irrelevant information: Autism. This is why our brain has developed abilities such as Pareidolia.
19-02-2013 18:46
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(19-02-2013 18:40)Qblock87 Wrote:  Can we get the toilet seat thread going again. This is shiteSad-smiley

Your best sticking to general chat, too many loonies in this section.
19-02-2013 18:47
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I'm not aware, because I did not read them.

Very simple, perfectly legitimate. How can you be in media and yet illiterate?
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